| And all of this, all these physical aspects of painting at that time excited me very much. You could do a picture in just black and white. I mean all the things, whether you're soliciting permission or not, do give you permission.
| I got so I was really just sick of sculpture.
| I did a twenty foot print and John Cage is involved in that because he was the only person I knew in New York who had a car and who would be willing to do this.
| I don't think any one person, whether artist or not, has been given permission by anyone to put the responsibility of the way things are on anyone else.
| I wouldn't use the same color in a picture in more than one place.
| A newspaper that you're not reading can be used for anything; and the same people didn't think it was immoral to wrap their garbage in newspaper.
| There was a whole language that I could never make function for myself in relationship to painting and that was attitudes like tortured, struggle, pain.
| If you don't have trouble paying the rent, you have trouble doing something else; one needs just a certain amount of trouble.
| I'm sure we don't read old paintings the way they were intended.
| Very quickly a painting is turned into a facsimile of itself when one becomes so familiar with with it that one recognizes it without looking at it.
| But I found a lot of artists at the Cedar Bar were difficult for me to talk to.
| Pollock also... wanted one to be wrapped in the painting.
| I think maybe chance works better in a situation like music because music exists over a period of time, and you don't maintain constantly the you can't refer back from one area to another area.
| And also the new excitement and variety of ways that the abstract expressionists were applying paint. You could put it on as though it were colored air and it would be painting.
| One can see that a canvas is six feet by eight feet, say, quite accurately. But you can spend two minutes and think it's five, or thirty seconds and it's just a different bed for activities there.
| Every time I've moved, my work has changed radically.
| An empty canvas is full.
| So that ideas of sort of relaxed symmetry have been something for years that I have been concerned with because I think that symmetry is a neutral shape as opposed to a form of design.
| You begin with the possibilities of the material.
| The only thing that I could get with chance, and I never was able to use it, was that I would end up with something quite geometric or the spirit that I was interested in, indulging in, was gone.